Time Traveling for the U.S. Military

Time Traveling for the U.S. Military

Been There, Done That, Says Andrew Basiago

by Len Kasten

 

The black and white photograph shows a boy standing alone in a clearing on the Gettysburg battlefield. He is wearing a men’s Union Army parka and shoes about four sizes too large. He appears somewhat out of place since he is all alone. In the background, a large audience is assembled, and a dais is set up, while in the foreground a group of three men is in serious discussion. The photo purports to be the scene just before Lincoln began to deliver the Gettysburg Address on November 19, 1863. The old photograph was discovered in a magazine by Andrew Basiago in 2003.

Basia­go is a middle-aged attorney from Washington state. He claims that he was the boy in the picture and that he realized it immediately when he came across the photo. He says that he had time-traveled to Gettysburg from East Hanover, New Jersey in 1972 when he was 11 and clearly remembers standing there like that in those oversized shoes waiting for Lincoln to begin speaking so that he could witness the Gettysburg Address. When he discovered it in the maga­zine, he was amazed to find that someone had actually taken a picture of that scene.

Basiago fleshed out and enriched the incident in great detail in a recent discussion on Facebook. He says that par­ticular time-travel experience “was very violent, as I cascaded through a series of branching wormholes in the amber-colored depths of the quantum plenum. My shoes were wrenched off in the process and I was somewhat disoriented and feverish as I popped into view on the side of a road northwest of Gettysburg. I threw my one remaining sock into the bushes so as not to look conspicuous. I walked into Gettysburg barefoot, shivering in the brisk autumn air.”

In the Facebook dialogue, we further learn that the freezing young boy stood peering into a millinery shop window, when an older man with a limp accosted him and asked him why he had no jacket or shoes. Basiago had been deliber­ately dressed in a Civil War era Union bugle-boy uniform before being sent through to Gettysburg, but without a jack­et. The man then took him inside the shop and found an army winter jacket and some men’s shoes in the back. The parka and shoes had very likely been scavenged from dead soldiers on the Gettysburg battlefield. He stuffed the shoes with paper in the toes to make them snug. After doing some research, Basiago later learned that the hobbled man who had helped him was John Lawrence Burns, a grizzled veteran of the War of 1812, and a Union sharpshooter who had been shot in the leg four months earlier during the Battle of Gettysburg.

This incident is just one of the sensational claims made by Basiago, who has emerged from obscurity lately to “blow the whistle”on what he says is a top secret government program known as Project Pegasus, a project dating from the late 1960s through the early 1970s under the auspices of the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA). His story certainly stretches credibility, for most doubtless beyond the breaking point. We are asked to be­lieve that the military had perfected time travel as early as 1968, and had then instituted this program to send young boys forward and backward in time to gather intelligence. Basiago had been recruited, he says, into the program when he was only six years old, which would have been 1967, while living in Morris Plains, New Jersey.

His father, Raymond F. Basiago, was a Senior Projects Engineer for the Ralph M. Parsons Company at that time. We learn that he drove young Andrew, one day, to the sprawling old Curtiss-Wright Aeronautical campus in Wood Ridge, New Jersey. They entered Building 68, where Basiago observed two “parenthesis-shaped” curved posts about eight feet high and about ten feet apart. When the attendant technician turned on the device, a curtain of energy ap­peared between the posts, something like a shimmering waterfall. His dad took his hand and they jumped through the energy curtain and found themselves facing a tunnel. His father explained to him that after they walked through the tunnel, it would close and they would find themselves somewhere else on the planet. Emerging from the tunnel in only a few seconds, they were on a hillside near the state capitol complex in Santa Fe, New Mexico. Basiago com­pares the feeling, in retrospect, to the reports of near-death experiencers. Curiously, he recalls seeing a cascade of other people and events rapidly flashing by as they went through the tunnel.

Curtiss-Wright Aeronautical has been intimately involved with U.S. aviation from its very inception. It was the company founded by Wilbur and Orville Wright to manufacture airplane engines in 1906 when it was known as the Curtiss Aeroplane and Motor Company. During World War I, it was the largest aircraft manufacturer in the world, employing 21,000 and producing more than 10,000 aircraft for wartime use. As Wright Aeronautical, it produced the famous J-5C Whirlwind 9-cylinder engine that powered the “Spirit of St.Louis” on its epic trans-oceanic flight in 1927, piloted by Captain Charles A.Lindbergh. It is not at all surprising that this storied company would have been a charter member of the “military-industrial” complex of Eisenhower fame and a trusted recipient of the early time-travel technology, if, indeed, there was such a thing.

We are informed by Basiago that the Team Leader of the Pegasus Project, responsible for training the participants at the Curtiss-Wright Teleport, was Jack Pruett, who later became the Research Director of the Montauk Project. The Ralph M. Parson Company, where Basiago’s father was employed at that time, is an engineering construction compa­ny founded in 1944 by Parsons. It has since become one of those behemoth companies of the stripe of the Battelle In­stitute, Halliburton and Bechtel that the Defense Department favors for huge projects requiring the marshaling of massive diverse resources while maintaining airtight secrecy—definitely a longtime member of the military-industrial complex. Now based in Pasadena, California, Parsons builds and maintains mammoth public and private projects all over the world.

Basiago’s involvement in Pegasus, he says, began in earnest in the summer of 1970 when he was eight. At that time, he was one of a team of boys about his age who were enrolled in a DOD sponsored advanced learning program and who were regularly teleported to Santa Fe, which was a collection point convenient to DOD facilities in New Mex­ico, including Los Alamos Labs, Holloman AFB, Alamogordo, Sandia, et al. Looking back, he believes that all the boys were guinea pigs as well as actual trainees for teleportation espionage work later in life. In a November, 2009, inter­view with George Noory on the radio show “Coast to Coast,” Basiago claimed that the Curtiss-Wright Teleport also had time-travel capabilities. It could be “dialed” to about two years in either direction, future or past. He related one story to Noory about a teleportation to Santa Fe in November 1971 in which his father carried rolled-up military specifications which he delivered to the Los Alamos Labs. His father told him that they were schematics for intercon­tinental ballistic missiles.

Later, having a drink in Albuquerque, his father revealed to him that it was now the sum­mer of 1973! They had jumped about 18 months into the future. The military was deliberately “burying” sensitive pa­pers in the future to keep them well out of reach of spies. In another case, he says his father was teleported to New Mexico where he remained for two years and then returned to New Jersey the same day he had left so that he could brief the military on the events of those intervening years. To his family, it would seem that he had never left, where­as he actually came back freighted with information from the future! The return trip from New Mexico was always from a Sandia teleport. There were many problems and accidents in those early days. Basiago reports one case where a boy’s feet were sheared off because they arrived a split second after the rest of his body, and he believes that some boys were lost in time.

In the summer of 1972, Basiago was introduced to a real time machine. This was a 60 foot anvil-shaped structure built on a basketball court at an old recreation center in Cerrillos, New Mexico. A large doorway near the bottom emitted a blue glow, and a ramp led up to the doorway. It was called, you guessed it, a Stargate. The young chrono­nauts were sent through the Stargate to the year 2045. This was an anchor point where they were able to obtain in­formation about the intervening years and bring it back to 1972. Basiago believes that the writers and producers of the movie Stargate, and the TV series, must have had access to leaked information, no doubt from an idealistic scien­tist who had worked on the project. 

Basiagio brought back mixed reports from the future. In 2045 he observed no signs that there had been a catastrophe of any sort. Life was highly advanced and tranquil. Yet, in a trip to Washing­ton D.C. in 2013, he found that the Supreme Court building was under 100 feet of water! Apparently, the Los Alamos engineers and scientists were experimenting with several different types of time travel techniques at that time. Basia­go’s trip to Gettysburg utilized what he called “plasma confinement” technology. He gives no details about this meth­od except to say that his experience was “very violent.” The Washington D.C. trip technique utilized a crystal helmet for respiration. Basiago was tied to a post in his underwear under a bright light for an hour, wearing the helmet, when he disappeared. He ended up above the water in Washington and immediately splashed into it. Underwater, able to breathe because of the helmet, he saw the Supreme Court columns covered in algae.

In the Fall of 1971, when he was 10, Basagio was told by his father that he would write a paper titled The Discov­ery of Life on Mars in 2008 when he would be 47. Apparently, a copy of the paper had been retrieved from the future on a time journey by a military operative, and his father was given that copy which he then showed to his son. This pattern of psychologically preparing him for his future destiny in revealing the truth about Mars continued through­out his three years with Pegasus. But then after 1972 he was left alone to live a normal life until the summer of 1981. At that time he was living in Chatsworth, California, and attending UCLA. They placed a CIA man in his life whose ap­parent job was to bring the 19-year-old back into the military-intelligence fold. His name was Courtney M. Hunt, an aging career operative. Hunt persuaded a very reluctant Basagio to teleport to Mars—reluctant because he had been treated rather roughly in Project Pegasus as a child and didn’t want any more involvement with secret programs.

After about a two-hour briefing, Hunt took him to a CIA building in El Segundo, California, and up to the fifth floor in an elevator. He told the people there, “Andy’s going up today,” and signed a log. Then Basiago was given a crystal helmet and he returned to the elevator. It seemed to go up a few floors. When the elevator doors opened, he was in a concrete bunker on Mars! The bunker was built into the “Face on Mars,” and Basiago walked up and out through the eye-socket onto the Martian surface, where three CIA personnel in their mid-twenties greeted him. They told him he could remove his helmet and breathe normally, which he did. He said the air was thin, as on a mountain­top, and hot, but acceptable.

Still rather traumatized, he interacted with the three greeters for about an hour and then returned to the elevator and sat down in a corner, wondering if he would ever get home again. The doors closed and he returned to Earth. Hunt then told him they would go together next time and explore the Martian surface. As Basagio tells it, the second trip was bizarre in the extreme! They strolled about near the “Face,” talked to a CIA agent living in a little house who was almost insane, encountered creatures part human and part animal without legs, and barely escaped a large predator with shark-like teeth by running like hell and diving into the eye socket! Hunt appar­ently only wanted to expose young Andy to the hostile surface and never bothered to bring him to the huge, joint hu­man-Martian underground city. After that experience, who could blame Basiago for fixing his determination to be­come a whistleblower.

Basiago may well be the most educated and articulate whistleblower in recent memory. He holds, he says, five de­grees including a B.A. in History from UCLA and an M.A. in Philosophy from Cambridge University as well as his LLB in Environmental Law from the Northwestern School of Law. He has, for the last ten years, been assiduously re­searching what is known about Project Pegasus in preparation for making his sensational public revelations, and he has consequently become very well versed in the history of the program. That research has enabled him, he says, to trace the origins of the space-time science and technology and how it ended up in the hands of Curtiss-Wright and Parsons.

He learned that it all began with—guess who?—Nikola Tesla, of course. It is purported that in Tesla’s final years, he worked for the U.S. Navy on the Invisibility Project, and that’s how he came to be involved in the Philadel­phia Experiment. Tesla died alone in his suite at the New Yorker Hotel on January 7, 1943, at the age of 86, before the Philadelphia Experiment was conducted in October of that year. Basiago tells us that immediately after his death, two teams of two men each raced to his hotel suite to retrieve his papers. One team was from the War Department and the other from the FBI. The War Department men arrived first and seized Tesla’s lab manuals.

The incident led, it is said, to the weaponization of Tesla’s work for the foreseeable future. The manuals, the results of the last fifteen or twenty years of Tesla’s research during which he had developed the details of teleportation technology, were sent to the scientists at Los Alamos, then the Manhattan Project. It was hoped by the military that teleportation would allow them to strategically place fighting men at critical locations intact without the losses involved in getting them there. But, says Basiago, “the net effect of that decision, however appropriate it was during a time of world war, prevented teleportation from being introduced in the civilian sector as potentially our dominant form of transportation.”

Basiago may not have considered that the question of the release of advanced technology to the public can be a very complicated one. What would happen to international borders if every country had teleportation technology? Forget passports, fences, immigration, and national security—anyone could live anywhere. Such a situation would be feasible only if human consciousness could be raised sufficiently to eliminate such things as war and terrorism. And how would time travel revolutionize our lives if we all knew the future—and we could go there? We would be at the portal of a very different planet than the one we have known.





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Secret DARPA time travel program may hold key to understanding the deep politics of 9/11

Secret DARPA time travel program may hold key to understanding the deep politics of 9/11

This is the first of a multi-part series on quantum access technologies, their application to the events of September 11, 2001, and the consequent implications for society.
In a 2006 paper entitled, “False Flag Operations, 9/11, and the Exopolitical Perspective”, Dr. Michael E. Salla identifies five exopolitical factors behind false flag operations, including the false flag operation of September 11, 2001. Although Dr. Salla identifies exotic scalar weapons as the “fourth exopolitical factor” in false flag operations, his 2006 article does not disclose how exopolitically-related factors specifically may have played out in the case of 9/11.
Since then, a key whistle blower, Andrew D. Basiago, has emerged with evidence that secret U.S. time travel technologies were used as early as 1971 to acquire first-hand documentary knowledge about September 11, 2001 – fully three decades before the horrific events of that fateful day. 
Mr. Basiago, a child participant in DARPA’s time travel program, Project Pegasus, has publicly stated how in 1971 he viewed moving images of the attack on the Twin Towers on September 11, 2001 that had been obtained from the future and brought back to the early 1970’s.
DARPA is the chief research and development arm of the US military, the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency.  DARPA created the precursor to the Internet, “Arpanet,” and has a penchant for trumpeting its advances, such as putting surveillance cameras on the backs of bumblebees and other exotic achievements in military science.
Mr. Basiago claims that DARPA’s secret technical accomplishments go far beyond what it has publicly acknowledged and that by 1970 DARPA had achieved teleportation-based time travel as well as advanced electro-optical means of discerning past and future events via different technologies that provide quantum access. 
Mr. Basiago has described how while serving in Project Pegasus, he viewed moving images of 9/11 at the secured U.S. defense-technical facility where they were processed after being retrieved from the future, the Aerojet Corporation facility that once stood at the corner of Bullock Avenue and Leroy Place in Socorro, New Mexico.
According to Mr. Basiago’s whistleblower testimony, Donald H. Rumsfeld, the sitting U.S. Secretary of Defense on September 11, 2001, was the defense attaché to Project Pegasus during the early 1970’s, when Mr. Rumsfeld was officially serving as a counselor to President Nixon and member of his Board of Wage and Price Stabilization.
In all likelihood, Mr. Rumsfeld, as the defense attaché to Project Pegasus, would have known about and possibly had control over the data about 9/11 derived via “quantum access” and brought back to the early 1970’s for analysis by the DARPA research and development program under his administrative authority.
Mr. Basiago’s eyewitness account that Secretary Rumsfeld and others knew about 9/11 decades in advance because data about it was gathered via DARPA’s secret time travel program unlocks several of the more enigmatic facts in the 9/11 literature and may be the key to society’s unraveling of the ultimate accountability for the false flag operation that took place on September 11, 2001.
Examiner.com will explore Mr. Basiago’s whistleblower eyewitness evidence regarding how secret U.S. government time travel technologies relate to 9/11 in future installments of this series.

Corroborative evidence of Andrew D. Basiago’s secret U.S. government time travel

Fig. 1-ProjectPegasus.net: Photo of Andrew D. Basiago on Nov. 19, 1863 at Gettysburg Address

This article introduces Examiner.com readers to quantum access evidence in the form of a time travel artifact that resulted from Andrew D. Basiago’s childhood participation in DARPA’s secret time travel program in the early 1970’s.  The ALTA reports and Web Bot technology have identified Mr. Basiago, an emerging figure in the disclosure movement, as a “planetary whistleblower” based on the global significance of his revelations.
Exploring this time travel artifact will help establish a frame of reference for Examiner.com readers to better evaluate evidence gathered by quantum access technology and time travel participants like Mr. Basiago.
Corroborative documentary evidence of the veracity of Mr. Basiago’s time travel expeditions on behalf of the U.S. government exists.  This documentary evidence consists of a photograph of Mr. Basiago taken at the scene of U.S. President Abraham Lincoln’s Gettysburg Address on November 19, 1863 after he was teleported to that location in the time-space continuum via DARPA time travel technology.
Andrew D. Basiago at Gettysburg, PA on November 19, 1863 (Gettysburg Address)
Figure 1 is the photograph of Andrew D. Basiago as a Project Pegasus time travel participant taken at the site of U.S. President Abraham Lincoln’s Gettysburg Address on November 19, 1863, to which Mr. Basiago had been teleported back in time by DARPA.
Mr. Basiago has publicly answered questions about this corroborating photographic evidence of his time travel experiences in the secret U.S. government program in which time travel was achieved.
Q: Is this [Figure 1] the photo of you on November 19, 1863?
Andrew D. Basiago: Yes. I am the boy standing in the foreground of the image at center-left, looking to his right. My shoes were lost in the transit through the quantum plenum that took me from the plasma confinement chamber at the time lab in East Hanover, NJ in 1972 to Gettysburg, PA on the day that Abraham Lincoln gave his famous address there in 1863. When I walked into downtown Gettysburg, where the shops were, after walking into town along the north-south arterial that led into Gettysburg, a cobbler by the name of John Lawrence Burns accosted me and took me inside a millinery shop and furnished me with a pair of men's street shoes and a Union winter parka that he took from a stack of military clothing in a storeroom at the back of the shop. In this image, one can see how over-sized the shoes were. I can confirm that this image was taken right after President Lincoln arrived on the dais, because when I walked over to this location and stood in this manner to detract attention from my shoes, I had been standing over by the dais, and Lincoln had not yet arrived, and I only stood in this position for several minutes before the quantum field effect produced by the plasma confinement chamber ended and I found myself back in the time lab in New Jersey.
Q: This is incredible, Andrew! I did not know there were pictures. Was this a picture (Figure 1) discovered that just happened to have you in it, or was this picture taken by those with you and you brought it back?
Andrew D. Basiago: To my knowledge, this was the only photograph that was taken in a past or future time when I was time traveling for DARPA's Project Pegasus. I think another breakthrough will come in the form of accounts from residents of Santa Fe [New Mexico] about children suddenly appearing at the state capitol complex there in the early 1970's. Our arrivals were sometimes witnessed. Several of my own arrivals were witnessed. I have spoken with area residents who knew that individuals were teleporting into Santa Fe in the early 1970's. Some of that knowledge resulted from the arrival of teleportees, including myself, being seen by others; other knowledge resulted from the fact that employees of LANL [Los Alamos National Laboratory, Los Alamos, NM] were bringing stories about the teleportation that was going on home from work and sharing them with their children around the dinner table in Los Alamos and White Rock.
Q: What were you looking at [in the photograph in Figure 1]?
Andrew D. Basiago: Nothing, intentionally. I was wearing a hodgepodge of clothes: the Union bugle boy uniform that I had been issued back in East Hanover, NJ in 1972; the Union winter parka that Burns had outfitted me in when I walked into town shivering in the brisk autumn air; the huge men's shoes that he gave me when I walked into town barefoot. When I walked over to the dais, several women were gossiping about me (presumably, because I was apparently a bugle boy separated from his regiment or a carpetbagger). I was questioned by two Union officers about where my regiment was bivouacked. I also had a strange encounter with my father, who was dressed as a Pennsylvania farmer and standing in front of the dais, in which he intentionally ignored me.
He later said that encountering me there at Gettysburg was how he found out I was going to be in the program. But he was startled to see me and not expecting me to be there, [he] acted like he didn't know who I was. After I was questioned by the two Union officers, I was concerned that I should make myself inconspicuous. We had been trained to avoid being conspicuous, being questioned, being arrested, being detained, and so on, because these things might create complications that would prevent us from getting back to the present. So, self-conscious about the huge shoes that I was wearing and trying to avoid being further noticed, I walked about 100 paces from the dais and stood with my back to the dais looking in the opposite direction from where I knew Lincoln would be arriving. I hoped that by affecting an air of non-chalance in this manner, I would avoid further scrutiny by those present. It didn't work! I ended up becoming the first time traveler from the future to be photographed!

Andrew D. Basiago answers questions about Project Pegasus and 9/11

Q: Why would the US take part in 9/11?
Andrew D. Basiago: What I know is that in the early 1970's, Project Pegasus had moving images of one of the planes hitting one of the Twin Towers on 9/11; that 9/11 was known and spoken of by project principals; and that the defense attache to Project Pegasus was Donald Rumsfeld, the individual who was serving as Defense Secretary during 9/11. The evidence from Project Pegasus shows that the US government knew about the 9/11 attacks many years in advance, not necessarily that it "took part" in those attacks.
Q: If Project Pegasus knew about 9/11 before it would happen, why wasn't 9/11 prevented from occurring?
Andrew D. Basiago: That's a good question. What I know is that it was the consensus of the US officials administering Project Pegasus that information about future events should be used to engage in contingency planning for future events but not to "play God" and change the future by preventing or altering future events. A paradox exists such that acting to change future events based on prior knowledge of them results in diminished accurate knowledge of future events. So, there is an institutional reluctance to change future events based upon prior knowledge of them because of the impact of doing so on the quality of the intelligence database concerning future events.
Q: How much information about the future has Project Pegasus learned about?
Andrew D. Basiago: My experiences in Project Pegasus indicate that by 1970, the US government was using chronovision to capture remotely and record on film a vast amount of footage of past and future events. When we visited the project location at Flemington, NJ -- where I was shown remote images of the signing of the US Constitution in 1787 and saw George Washington and Benjamin Franklin as they appeared in life -- we could see that the technicians there were filming reams and reams of scenes of past events on 16 mm film stock and storing it in film canisters. Presumably, this process is done digitally today.
Q: Is Project Pegasus still active?
Andrew D. Basiago: I do not know whether Project Pegasus is still active, but the intelligence infrastructure that evolved from it is in all likelihood very active at this time. Project Pegasus was a small, highly secret research and development program launched in the late 1960's. However, the technologies that it developed gave the US government the keys to past and future events. My guess is that the quantum access capabilities that Project Pegasus provided the US government are now headquartered at some form of national intelligence center that provides the President, the intelligence community and the military information about future events.
Q: Was just the military involved or was the government also involved?
Andrew D. Basiago: Project Pegasus combined individuals employed by the US military (Navy, DARPA), the US intelligence community (CIA) and civilian defense contractors (e.g., Parsons). It was a research and development program of the US Department of Defense (DoD).
Q: How could a father actually put his son through all of these violent and possibly fatal transportation experiments?
Andrew D. Basiago: It is my position that my father and I were proud to serve our country during its hour of maximum danger and were also privileged to be involved in America's early activities in time-space exploration. My father did not involve me in Project Pegasus. Rather, we were approached by the US government and told we had to be involved for reasons that remain a mystery. In all likelihood, we were identified by project personnel from the future, who knew from the perspective of their time that we had been involved in the program, and hence we were brought into the program to create the future program that had knowledge of our past involvement.
Q: Why was not an adult the one transported so that the information brought back might be more precise?
Andrew D. Basiago: Children were involved for five main reasons. First, we were experimental test subjects into the physical and mental effects of teleportation on children. Second, we were necessary participants because the holograms produced by the chronovisors would collapse if adults were involved and so small, cooperative, intelligent human beings were needed as the time travelers in the chronovisor probes, and therefore a decision was made to involve gifted and talented American school children. Third, we were regarded as better participant-observers of the past and future events accessed in the program because children are tabula rasa -- blank slates whose perceptions are not skewed by the selection bias produced by their previous experiences. Fourth, we were trainees who were expected to become America's first generation of "chrononauts" in a fully fledged time-space program when we grew up.
Fifth and lastly, the Department of Defense found that when adults were involved in time travel, the psychologically destabilizing effects of moving between alternate time lines was causing some adult time travelers to become insane, so it was hoped that by training time travelers from childhood a competent cadre of US time travelers could be formed.
Q: How could a child possibly be put through all of this and also remember everything he saw or even understand what he saw or heard?
Andrew D. Basiago: I am a gifted individual with exceptional powers of observation and memory. These gifts were identified when I was being trained in Project Pegasus. In one test, I recited back random numbers provided to me verbally to 84 places. I was identified as the future whistle blower about Project Pegasus even while I was still serving on the project. I have spent over 10 years investigating my experiences and proving them to an historical certainty.
I am an individual who did remember what I saw and heard, so it is not valid to say that I couldn't have done so because a child couldn't or shouldn't have been able to. That involves the fallacy of using the general to refute the specific. I not only remembered much of what I saw and heard, but I later wrote it down and went back and investigated it and proved my memories. Consequently, I am now able to provide an insider's account of the US government's time-space program at the time of its emergence in the late 1960's and early 1970's.
 
This multi-part series on quantum access technologies, their application to the events of September 11, 2001, and the consequent implications for our society will be continued in Part II.

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The Titor Time Travel Tale

The Titor Time Travel Tale

Has a traveller from a parallel timeline visited our plenum?

 

A Brief Summary of the John Titor Phenomenon

 

Although there is debate over the exact date it started, on November 2nd 2000, a person calling themselves Timetravel_0, and later John Titor, started posting on a public forum that he was a time traveller from the year 2036.

One of the first things he did was post pictures of his time machine and its operations manual. As the weeks went by, more and more people began questioning him about why he was here, the physics of time travel and his thoughts about our time. He also posted on other forums including the now non-existent Art Bell site. In his posts John Titor entertained, angered, frightened and even belittled those who engaged him in conversation.

On March 21, 2001, John Titor told us he would be leaving our and returning to 2036. After that, he was never heard from again. Speculation and investigation about who John Titor was and why he was online continues to this day.

Although it may be easy to dismiss all this as science fiction, most people who read his posts agree that there is something very haunting about John Titor and what he said. In addition, and open to more debate, he also made a series of predictions and comments that eerily seem to be coming true.

Unfortunately, I never spoke directly to John Titor but there are many out there who have and continue to wonder about their experience. As you get deeper and deeper into the story, you will find his posts, links to other sites about him, downloads and speculative information attributed to him after he left… As you read, please try to keep two things in mind:

1. John appeared to answer nearly every question that was asked of him over the four month period he was online. Because of that, many people neglected to read the previous posts and asked similar or exact questions he had already answered. It may offer a glimpse of what a time traveler goes through when having the same conversation again and again.

2. These posts were written before 9/11, the Discovery accident and the second Gulf War. Many people believe John may have known of these events and dropped clues without actually referring to them. It's also widely agreed that he made several predictions about future physics discoveries that have materialized as he stated.

I have included a guest book where you may leave your comments. I will endeavor to respond to any questions you have based on my work.

I hope you enjoy your journey with John Titor.

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Understanding John Titor

You will hear people who haven't researched Titor's story claim it to be a hoax, but to this day it remains internally consistent and 'undebunked'. Start with the premise of multiple worlds theory being true -- that would mean that we live in a probabilistic universe in which some things are more changeable than others. The laws of physics for example might actually vary across widely disparate probabilistic universes, but not any of the universes that our own could ever evolve into.
So the physical operation of Titor's time machine is not likely to vary from our worldline compared to the one that Titor claimed to grow up in. Nor would you expect major social trends and world events to vary greatly from one nearby worldline to the next, like the assaults upon the American Constitution we have witnessed over Bush's eight or so years and the apathy of most Americans toward those assaults, or the nonexistence of WMDs in Iraq. It would take a VERY LARGE DIVERGENCE between worldlines to make those kinds of things turn out differently from one to the next.
What CAN easily change between nearby worldlines however are details about some of Titor's predictions, like the dates and intensity of civil war he described, the date the LHC would come online, and the date of global nuclear war. These are all easily modifiable by human intention and should not be expected to remain the same from one worldline to another, ESPECIALLY in the case where you have a reasonably intelligent psychopath like Karl Rove whose plans may have been modified as a result of Titor revealing them to us, thereby GREATLY CHANGING OUR WORLDLINE.
It is true that Titor didn't think we would change our worldline, but then again he was pretty cynical about the sheeplike apathy of contemporary Americans of his worldline and ours during the timeframe he was here. But he was just a soldier, not a prophet, and time travel would still be pretty new in only two and a half decades. It would therefore be wrong to consider him infallible, and people also forget that he didn't care whether we believed him or not! Titor explained that we could change our worldline if we wanted to badly enough, and Titor's story remains consistent with DETAILS actually changing while MAJOR things would not, and have not.
It is true that the Bush attacks upon our Constitution never sparked overt civil war, but it should be understood unambiguously that American freedoms were indeed under attack, that civil war could have easily broken out if Bush had pushed things far enough, and that many minor conflicts that had the potential to escalate were filtered out from the public consciousness by a compliant news media failing to report them. He never used the domestic relocation camps FEMA operates for example, whereas in Titor's original worldline they may have been used for the internment of Americans under the guise of imprisoning 'domestic terrorists' and we certainly came very close to accusations of 'domestic terrorists' in our worldline.
That is all it would have taken to cause our timeline to diverge significantly from Titor's, pulling back just enough to stop the overt civil war. But anyone who doubts that our civil liberties were under attack and actually compromised by the Bush administration hasn't been paying attention very well. Titor's predictions about that were spot on, and nobody could have reasonably envisioned that in 2000 or 2001. That is validation no skeptic can deny.

John Titor told us our timeline could be changed

Similarly, the long delay in starting the LHC could easily have been manufactured so that the pre-warned governments would have the opportunity to research Titor's claims out of the public eye; remember how Titor indicated that governments would be very threatened by the prospect of time travel?
The logical conclusion is that Titor's warnings to us were picked up by the very types of people that in his worldline did all the evil things he described, but in our worldline they had to go undercover so as to not be perceived as precisely following Titor's predictions. Consequently it is stupid and wrong to quibble over details as if there was no such thing as multiple universes, and as if the smaller things couldn't be deliberately altered. We are only left in a state of uncertainty over small details today, while the bulk of the evidence - the major events not likely to be easily changed between worldlines - do support Titor’s tale as genuine.
Titor indicated that the next president would continue the policies of the former (Bush Jr.) and while being well-meaning, would not change the direction of anything. That description exactly fit McCain and MAY fit Obama, but probably not; we are going to find out soon, by how aggressive and successful Obama turns out to be in stabilizing American and world financial markets and international tensions.
The most likely situation which fits the evidence best is that McCain won the last election in Titor's worldline, he just kept on doing the same stupid warmongering that Bush did, and consequently there was nuclear war in 2015. But in our worldline enough of us were warned by Titor to make a difference -- the online world is much more powerful than most people realize yet -- and combined with the bad guys pulling back the police state to deliberately avoid Titor's predictions we have instead elected a much smarter and more capable president - quite hard to imagine following in Bush's footsteps like McCain obviously would have.
Consequently it is likely that Titor's story was PROBABLY true, but our timeline changed due to his presence much more than Titor expected it might, and that we now have a chance to avoid the nuclear war of 2015. That chance would be amplified by whatever extent we are able to make progress toward Obama's stated intentions to ratchet down the nuclear weapons in the world. Our major threats are therefore not foreign terrorists and foreign countries but domestic right-wingers soaked in fear and hate (i.e. Limbaugh, Hannity, Coulter, etc.) and wanting to see Obama and America fail so that more war and strife would be justified.

 

Takehome lessons

Be smart, people. Titor came seemingly out of nowhere with a message about the direction our culture was headed and the consequences that would follow if nobody cared, and indeed he was correct about the major directions things would go. While details have not been 100% correct that is what multiverse theory predicts across slightly divergent worldliness - as Titor illustrated by books not written and sporting events ending differently. But major things are less likely to be changed, so they are the best indicators of Titor's authenticity.
It could be just an amazing coincidence that Orwell's dystopia came late but reason and logic in the light of the internal consistency of Titor's worldview cannot falsify his story; on the contrary the test of time so far supports it. There have been many attempts to discredit Titor's story, by impersonating him and claiming to know his mother and even fabricating additional documents to conflate his original story with falsehood. Self-styled 'debunkers' seize on any discrepancy, typically ignoring or never understanding the implications of multiverse theory, and spout some of the wildest conclusions as if they have proven something with utter certainty. Their denial of any rational scientific view of accepting reality whatever the evidence indicates it to be invalidates whatever agenda it is they are driven by.
I know that the world I live in now is not the one that Titor described growing up in, although it easily could have been. That is consistent with divergence between worldlines created by the forewarning we received. Millions of people learned about Titor's story and watched it begin to play out at least, waiting for the other shoe of full blown civil war to drop. That had to have an effect. If Titor's worldview is correct enough of us cared to change the worldline, and Obama's inauguration would be evidence of that as most of us have chosen hope and change over hate and fear.
Certainly hate and fear describe the direction Titor's worldline took, and since hope and change seem necessary requirements for changing the timeline, we may have exceeded Titor's opinion of us after all. Time will tell but we are not out of the woods yet. I like to think that the people of Titor's worldline that he judged so harshly did not have the benefit of the warning he gave us, and their normal human tendencies to place trust in their leaders might account for a lot of the 'apathy' that let things get much worse for them. We on the other hand know better by benefit of being warned, desired change, and it looks like it is happening. Only the stupidly warlike and apathetic type of Americans Titor so despised when he first got here could still cause Titor's prediction of global nuclear war to come true, and while there are still plenty of them, we have proven ourselves smart enough as a nation to abandon hate and fear as motivators and instead seek something greater and more noble for our country.
You should still pay attention to whatever new evidence arises and keep your mind open to it, but don't be swayed by the arguments of lightweight right-wing loudmouths who will claim the story a hoax because they are speaking from superficiality and ignorance - and they would be among the Americans that Titor detested for their complacency, apathy, and willingness to accept the status quo. There are still many of them and they would drag us down with them if they could. But we are better than that, America is better than that, we are not driven toward nuclear war like so many lemmings headed toward a cliff so long as we remain aware that WE create the world we live in. That we have the ability to guide the outcome of our worldline explains how we can have free will and is perhaps the most important message Titor gave us.
From http://www.johntitor.strategicbrains.com/

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John Titor On Time Travel And The Cosmos

02 November 2000 - 01:16. Grandfather paradox: Suppose you could go back in time, lets say several decades and found your grandfather when he was two years old. In his house you could grab a knife and stab him to death. He doesn't get the chance to have children with your grandmother. Therefore either your mother or father doesn't get born. Your parents can't give birth to you because one of them don't exist. You could never have been born and don't even exist.
But could your grandfather have been killed by someone who doesn't exist? He must have lived through his childhood. This would allow you to exist if this is the case. Seemingly you can go back in time to commit the murder if you are born but then you would never have been born. And so on and so on. This situation is not consistent with itself. It doesn't make sense and can't possibly happen.
Solution:
A parallel universe might be created when you seem to change the past. Imagine if time itself was just like a tree. The different branches show different ways events could have happened. Every time we decide to do or not to do something time splits. Even if we are not aware we decided something it have affects. Quantum physics reveals a many worlds theory like this. Conclusion: Since this parallel universe is not really your past (despite its first appearance) anything you do there does not affect you. You can prevent a version of yourself from being born because you are not really related to anyone there. They just look very like your family and friends. You are not home! You may be somewhere that looks like the place you live but a different universe in quantum physics is a completely different reality.
By the way… the basics for time travel start at CERN in about a year and end in 2034 with the first "time machine" built by GE. Too bad we can't post pictures or I'd show it to you.

05 November 2000 - 03:29. Pamela: 3.what would happen if you would meet yourself on another world line?
Timetravel_0: It has always surprised me why that concept is so hard for people to imagine and accept. Nothing would happen. The universe would not end and there are no paradox problems that threaten existence. Temporal space-time is made up of every possible quantum state. The Everett Wheeler model is correct. I have met and/or seen myself twice on different world lines. The first was a training mission and the second is now. I was born in 1998 so the other "me" is 2 on this world line. There is a saying where I come from... Every possible thing that can happen or will happen has already happened somewhere.

 

05 November 2000 - 03:29. Pamela: 4. How is this world line different from your own?
Timetravel_0: For starters.... the fact that I'm here makes it different. I've also noticed little things like news events that happen at different times, football games won by other teams... things like that. I would guess the temporal divergence between this world line and my original is about 1 or 2 percent. Of course, the longer I am here, the larger that divergence becomes from my point of view.
06 November 2000 - 09:04. Yes, you can travel forward in time. No, you do not need an ‘invite’ from the future.
06 November 2000 - 09:04. You do not rewrite history. I can only affect what happens here just as easily as you can.
06 November 2000 -16:43. Getting back to my ‘proper’ universe is tricky but possible. Yes, another jump would take me to a different family.
06 November 2000 - 22:13. Pamela: 2. can you travel to the future as well as the past? My understanding of the machine is the trip is recorded so you can get back to your original time line but what about a future beyond your time line - are you able to access it as well? Or does it have to be open[ed] by a future chrononaunt?
Timetravel_0: Yes, you can travel into the future and it takes less energy than going into the past.
06 November 2000 - 22:13. Pamela: 5. when you go back to the future will we remember you?
Time travel_0: Yes, you will remember me if you want to. World lines do not change that way and I will only become an insignificant part of your history.
07 November 2000 -22:18. (In the same vein, if you just happened to arrive at “the year 2000” a fraction of a second in my past, or future would I ever know that you just 'landed soon by’?)
No "you" would not. But the "you" on that world line would.
07 November 2000 - 22:18. (In other words, what makes this time line be 'now' at any given moment versus being any other time. We exist as A point on a time LINE, what is it that defines that point?)
It is believed there are some sort of measurable quantum differences in world lines. I am not an expert on that so I can offer little information.
17 November 2000 - 09:34. It is thought that being close to a gravitational field has a biological effect on all matter including cells. The effect is to slow the movement of electrons in the orbits of their nucleus which thus slows the mechanical and biological functions of the observer close to the gravity. Thus the passing of time is a local phenomenon depending on how close you are to a gravitational source. This is one example of a theory involving "time shells" progressing in size and intensity around a gravitational point from all matter. The more massive the object, the larger and more influential the time shells around it (like an onion)…
21 December 2000 -10:59. In a Universe made up of infinite worldliness (superuniverse), everything is possible and has a 100% probability, therefore no paradoxes.
30 December 2000 -10:28. I’m pretty sure they have a number of experiments going on at the same time at CERN. The one I’m referring to involves very high energies using protons. From my historical perspective on my worldline, I do recall the issue was a point of contention about 18 months ago or so. There were some scientists who thought the experiments were too dangerous to try. The time travel I refer to does not require faster than light travel and due to multiple world ‘reality’, paradoxes do not occur. Natural time machines do exist.
30 December 2000 -11:47. (If parallel universes do exist, did they all start simultaneously? I mean, let's assume that the universe originated from a singularity. Were there any parallel universes at that point? That would not be very logical and it would also imply that there is a parallel universe in which our universe never existed.)
30 December 2000 -11:47. It is thought that the event called the ‘Big Bang’ was the start of not only this worldline or universe but all worldlines and all universes that make up the superuniverse. It is also thought that the superuniverse can be imagined as an expanding sphere with the big bang in the center. Individual worldliness (or timelines as you call them) can be imagined as lines originating at the center and ‘trending’ toward spiraling around the sphere until they reach the edge. The individual worldlines expand in length and widen as you follow them from the center.
Each individual ‘moment’ or ‘event’ on a world line has infinite possibilities or outcomes. Imagine this as a single point with infinite lines shooting away from it, which in turn are made up of points with their own possibilities and outcomes. Now, remember, these individual worldliness with all these points and possibilities are defined by their ability to hold there inhabitants to timelike trips only (no faster than light travel).
30 December 2000 -11:47. Now consider the reality of a spinning or electrified black hole (Kerr). Penrose diagrams of these oddities show mathematically that you can make simulated spacelike trips (faster than light) through the singularity without being destroyed. In order to do this without wiping out most modern physical laws, you must travel to an alternate worldline or universe. Therefore, if multiple worldlines exist, infinite worldlines exist.
30 December 2000 -11:47. If all this isn’t enough to get your head spinning here are some issues we’re dealing with in 2036.
1 Did your worldline (D) exist at all before I got here from (C)? (personally I don’t see how it couldn’t)
2 What happens at the end of a worldine at the edge of the superuniverse?
3 If there are infinite worldlines and infinite possibilities and an edge to the superuniverse, doesn’t that mean occurring events on worldliness are staggered as they reach the edge? (time could end at any moment without warning)
30 December 2000 -11:47. In trying to imagine a superuniverse with infinite possibilities and worldlines, I think of a room with mirrors on all the walls. You are aware of your captivity but as you look in the distance, you see an infinite number of ‘yous’ in an infinite number of mirrored rooms. The gravity distortion machine allows you to ‘step’ out of your room and into another next to you. The closer you are to your original room, the closer it looks like yours, the farther away, the stranger it looks to you.
06 January 2001- 13:10. A great deal of the theoretical mathematics behind time travel was discovered by testing various ideas in string theory and eliminating the anomalies. As I recall, it was this original work that led to the final proof that six dimensions do indeed curl up to give us our observable universe. This in turn supported more of the theoretical math behind time travel etc. It’s ironic that the beauty of string theory gives future engineers the confidence to create the distortion unit even though the final proof is still unknown. You’re a physics student, have you ever heard the Princeton String Quartet play?
15 January 2001- 13:36. (The artificial singularity you travel with, you say it forms a local gravity field. Does it physically reduce the size of nearby objects during operation? And if so by how much? )
Actually, there are 2 singularities in the unit. The gravity field is manipulated by three factors that affect it in distinct ways. Adding electric charge to the singularities increases the diameter of the inner event horizons. Adding mass to the singularities increases the area of gravitational influence around the singularities. Rotating and positioning the polar axis of the singularities affects and alters the gravity sinusoid. The effects of the gravity produced by the unit do not have enough time to significantly alter physical objects within a reasonable distance from the outside of the sinusoid. No, things do not get smaller.
15 January 2001- 13:36. (If the electron injection system alters the shape of the field, would that not force the unit to accelerate through space as well as time?)
There is no relative movement in space due to three main factors. Large, kinetic energy inducing effects of the gravity field are compensated for by the interaction of the singularities. The mass of the unit and any objects inside the sinusoid do not exhibit any huge increases on the departure worldline during travel. The observed path of the traveler is obtained by changing the gravity, not by moving the vehicle. The black hole comes to you.
15 January 2001-13:36. (The question is define "time")
To me, time has two definitions. I see time as a mathematical component of a 10 dimensional super universe. It is a variable I use to define my location and existence. I also see time as a metaphysical compromise our senses use to define the area of collective existence God has placed us in. When I can measure and sense time, I know I am not with God.
09 January 2001- 09:28. (How is it possible to send a message through Time?)
Unless the information physically travels with the person, not that I'm aware of.
10 January 2001-23:10. (You said 6 curled up dimensions. The current theory suggests that there should be at least 7 curled up dimensions.)
I may be mistaken but I thought it was pretty well established now that (N -10) was on track.
15 January 2001-12:04. (What is a WORLDLINE?)
Individual worldlines represent the limits and paths physical objects take through space-time under the laws of special relativity. They can be shown graphically on an x-y graph with x representing distance in space and y representing passing of time. In time travel talk, worldlines are used as a way to describe and separate the experiences of a time traveler because various laws of special relativity appear to break down and can’t be defined on a single worldline. Worldline has also become synonymous with "alternate universe" and/or "time line".
26 January 2001-13:32. (Is it physically possible for you to get back to THIS time line once you leave?)
Not with the unit I have.
26 January 2001-13:32. (If all 7 Billion of us here each had our own time machine do you think that would we would end up trashing the rest of the local worldlines?)
Since everything is already happening and possible on different worldlines, the answer is yes and no.

26 January 2001-13:32. (Someone correct me where I'm wrong here but as I understand it, these Parallel Universes or Alternative Timelines are "created" by events in our own, (timelines) or even in others.)
Parallel universes exist independently of each other and only interact to avoid the collapse of the wave function for any given particle that you are looking at. I like to imagine it as a series of parallel lines crossed by a sine wave. Each point on the sine wave where a line crosses it represents an alternate outcome. The multiple ‘yous�’on each worldline record a different result for the activity of the event.
26 January 2001-13:32. (Actually, in science, "Multiverse" theory is something that has NEVER been proven. For lack of evidence. It crops up from time to time as a way to explain certain SEEMING paradoxes like the EPR double slit experiment with polarized light. But then, just because it can be used to explain something doesn't mean it is so.)
I agree with you that an explanation doesn’t make it so. However you can build a model to describe physical behavior. Even if the model is not complete, its ‘truth’ can be measured by how well it predicts the behavior it describes.
26 January 2001-13:32. I believe the closest non-related evidence for multiple universes right now comes from the physics (derived from special relativity) of rotating (Kerr) black holes. If you examine a typical Penrose map, science agrees that you can travel to ‘other universes’ through these cosmic oddities. They can’t be different places in our own universe because you would have to violate the speed of light limit to get there.
Since the existence of multiple universes is a reality from my viewpoint, please allow me to disclose an idea we toss around a bit in 2036. Since all possibilities, outcomes and events are occurring and exist simultaneously, it would mean there are multiple universes out there where ‘you’ are living a day behind and a day ahead of the ‘you’ on this universe. There are some who believe that memory is some sort of information transfer or communication with the ‘yous’ in the past, across worldlines or universes. Although this is seemingly quite ridiculous, if you think that could be true, then physics tells us that the same information transfer from our future selves on other worldlines is not only possible but certain.
Could it be that fantasy or ‘what if’ scenarios are actually future memory from an alternate ‘us’ on a future worldline? According to physics, there is no reason why this cannot be true although I probably fall a little closer to DiViper’s feelings about this as he does on multiple universes.
01/26/01 09:21pm: (So, it would seem to me that your "mission" to go back in time to help your society in the future seems rather illogical, because in fact you cannot help them without the ability to make, what you termed a "ZD", a zero divergence trip.)
The reality of infinite possibilities is rather difficult to get a grip on and if it were not for the math, I would delegate it to the realm of religion. I like to think of it as standing in a room with mirrors on all the walls. I can look to my right and left and see many ‘mes’ all doing exactly the same thing. If we all took a step to our right and passed through a dimensional doorway to the next mirrored room, it would be very difficult to tell if anything had changed. In that sense, there are an infinite number of worldlines waiting for me to return with the computer. If I can get to one of them, I have completed my mission.
From http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread62068/pg1

05 November 2000 - 03:29 (about time travel) Pamela: by the way, can you tell me what it feels like to time travel? when you are in the process of doing it what does it feel like and what do you see and hear. you made mention that you had to get use to the fields. Do you see a bright flash of light?
Timetravel_0: Interesting first question. The unit has a ramp up time after the destination coordinates are fed into the computers. An audible alarm and a small light start a short countdown at which point you should be secured in a seat. The gravity field generated by the unit overtakes you very quickly. You feel a tug toward the unit similar to rising quickly in an elevator and it continues to rise based on the power setting the unit is working under. At 100% power, the constant pull of gravity can be as high as 2 Gs or more depending on how close you are to the unit. There are no serious side effects but I try to avoid eating before a flight.
No bright flash of light is seen. Outside, the vehicle appears to accelerate as the light is bent around it. We have to wear sunglasses or close our eyes as this happens due to a short burst of ultraviolet radiation. Personally I think it looks like you’re driving under a rainbow. After that, it appears to fade to black and remains totally black until the unit is turned off. We are advised to keep the windows closed as a great deal of heat builds up outside the car. The gravity field also traps a small air pocket around the car that acts as your only O2 supply unless you bring compressed air with you. This pocket will only last for a short period and a carbon sensor tells us when it's too dangerous. The C204 unit is accurate from 50 to 60 years a jump and travels at about 10 years an hour at 100% power. You do hear a slight hum as the unit operates and when the power changes or the unit turns off. There is a great deal of electrical crackling noise from static electricity.
05 November 2000 - 03:29. Pamela: what are some of your memories of 2036?
Timetravel_0: I remember 2036 very clearly. It is difficult to describe 2036 in detail without spending a great deal of time explaining why things are so different. In 2036, I live in central Florida with my family and I'm currently stationed at an Army base in Tampa . A world war in 2015 killed nearly three billion people. The people that survived grew closer together. Life is centered around the family and then the community. I can not imagine living even a few hundred miles away from my parents.
There is no large industrial complex creating masses of useless food and recreational items. Food and livestock is grown and sold locally. People spend much more time reading and talking together face to face. Religion is taken seriously and everyone can multiple and divide in the heads…
05 November 2000 - 03:29. Pamela: are you able to control where you go or is it random?
Timetravel_0: Yes, it can be controlled. However, the distortion unit has operational limits. Imagine your path through time is through a cone. The farther away from the center of the cone, the more differences you will see in the world line. The C204 begins to "break away" at about 60 years. This means the level of confidence drops rapidly after 60 years of travel and the world line divergence increases. In other words, if I wanted to go back 2000 years and meet Christ, there is a better than average chance I would end up on a world line where he was never born.
The computer units and gravity sensors "record" your trip and you are quite easily able to return to your point of origin. I am aware that research is being done on faster units with more accurate clocks. I imagine that they will be able to go back farther with a higher degree of divergence confidence…
05 November 2000 03:29 (about time travel) 10
Pamela: 9.Are you able to go back to your own world line?
Timetravel_0: Yes.

05 November 2000 03:29 (about time travel) 11
Pamela: 10.how are you protecting yourself from radiation? it alters DNA if you dont.
Timetravel_0: I'm not sure what radiation you mean. If you mean from the unit, you can see it vents X-rays and Gamma radiation out of the rear. As long as you stay away from that, you should be okay. I keep a radiation detector with me to check my environment and make sure the unit isn't "leaking".

05 November 2000 03:29 (about time travel) 12
Pamela: 11.How long would you say that ultraviolet radiation lasts? about 10 seconds? and when you are in that light can you see anything around you or does the light kind of "fill up" everything and that is all you can see at the time?
Timetravel_0: The light bending only lasts a second. Its like driving under a tunnel and being in total black.

 

05 November 2000 - 03:29. Pamela: Do your people know where you are right now? Can you communicate with them? do you have a biological implant?

Timetravel_0: No. They do not know where I am and I can not communicate with them. Interesting idea though. From their point of view, I will return almost exactly at the same moment I left. From their viewpoint, I will only have aged more than expected.
05 November 2000 03:29. Pamela: after the flash of light is gone are you then in another time? what does it look like as the new time unfolds? Is it just there? or does it slowly come into view? does it fade in and out for a time?
Timetravel_0: While the machine is on. Everything is black. When the machine is turned off, it is the reverse affect. It appears you are driving out from a bridge. To tell you the truth, I'm usually sleeping when the unit turns off but yes... it does appear that the world fades in from black.
05 November 2000 - 03:29. Pamela: what happens if the device messes up? Do you end up in space? if it goes offline and shifts ? does a hole open elsewhere?
Timetravel_0: Good question!!! That one almost never comes up. The hard part of traveling through time is not the bending of gravity but the plotting of your course and holding to the basic "position" in your environment. This is done through a system called VGL (variable gravity lock). Basically, the unit takes a reading of the local gravity and samples it during the "trip" in pulses. If the gravity is too far off, the unit stops or reverses itself to the last sample period where the readings were correct. If there is some sort of failure, the unit shuts down and drops out to where ever you may be.
05 November 2000 - 03:29. Pamela: what affects are caused on the immediate area where the gravity has been distorted after you leave it and when you arrive? are there permanent effects left on the land such as electromagnetic disturbances in that area?
Timetravel_0: Another good question!!! The only real physical trace is a large chunk of ground missing from the point of origin and a large pile of dirt at the destination. The gravity field surrounds a small portion of the earth under you and takes it along for the ride. There is really no way around this…
06 November 2000 - 09:08. No, the ice caps are not melting any faster than they are now. There is also far less smog and industrial waste in 2036.
06 November 2000 -16:43.
You asked about the North Polar ice pack. I never said the environment wasn't a problem. Doesn't water expand when it freezes? If the polar ice cap melted, wouldn't sea level go down? I don't know if there's enough ice for this to make a difference and I'm not an expert on global warming.
06 November 2000 -16:43. Cement block - good question. The hard part of traveling to other world lines is just that. There is a system of clocks and gravity sensors that sample the environment before dropping out. It’s called VGL, (variable gravity lock). If a cement block were there, the machine would ‘backtrack’ until it sensed relative congruity to the original gravity sample. A great deal of time and effort goes into picking just the right spot since you can not physically move during a displacement.
06 November 2000 -22:13. Pamela: can you explain to me in detail the basic physics and mathematics behind how the machine operates? and exactly how it distorts gravity.
Timetravel_0: 1) Time travel is achieved by altering gravity. This concept is already proven by atomic clock experiments. The closer an observer is to a gravity source (high mass), the slower time passes for them. Traveling at high speeds mimics this effect which = the twin paradox of faster than light travel. However, this type of gravity manipulation is not sufficient to alter your world line.
The basic math to alter world lines exists right now. Tipler first described a working "time machine" through his theory of massive rotating spheres… Certain types of black holes also exhibit the "time travel" abilities of Tipler cylinders. Kerr was one of the first to describe the dual event horizons of a rotating black hole. As with Tipler's cylinders, it was possible to travel on a "time-like" trip through a Kerr black hole and end up in a different world line without being squished by the gravity of the singularity…
The mass and gravitational field of a microsingularity can then be manipulated by "injecting" electrons onto its surface. By rotating two electric microsigularities at high speed, it is possible to create and modify a local gravity sinusoid that replicates the affects of a Kerr black hole. For those asking how come a microsingularity doesn't swallow the Earth or want to know details about the size, stability, mass, temperature and resulting Hawking radiation from such a thing… those details I must keep to myself…
07 November 2000 -17:18. I would equate the "future" GM distortion units to their current jet engines. The first one worked great but they can always make it better. The C204 unit uses 4 cesium clocks. The C206 uses 6 cesium clocks but they use an optical system to check the oscillation frequency. This makes the world line divergence confidence much higher.

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