9/11 Plane Crash That Never Was

9/11 Plane Crash That Never Was

United 93 Still Airborne After Alleged Crash - According To ATC/Radar

… Air Traffic Control (ATC) transcripts reveal United 93 as being airborne after its alleged crash. Similar scenarios have been offered with regard to American 77 and American 11 showing an aircraft target continuing past its alleged crash point in the case of American 11, or past the turn-around point in the case of American 77. However, both these issues can be easily explained by "Coast Mode" radar tracking. This is not the case with United 93.

Radar Coast Mode activates when a transponder is inoperative (or turned off) and primary radar tracking is lost, which enables ATC to have some sort of reference of the flight after losing radar coverage of the physical aircraft. When an aircraft target enters "Coast Mode", ATC is alerted in the form of a blue tag on the target as well as the tag letters switching to CST. ATC will readily recognize when an aircraft enters "Coast Mode".

According to National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB) Flight Path Study, United 93 allegedly impacted the ground at 10:03am, September 11, 2001. The following transcript excerpts are provided by the Federal Aviation Administration. It is a conversation between Air Traffic Control System Command Center - East, Management Officers (ntmo-e) and other various facilities. The conversation is as follows in real time:

(relevant portions have been placed in bold)

1405 (10:05 a.m.)

ntmo-e: ok united ninety three we're now receiving a transponder on and he is at eighty two hundred feet

doug: now transponder and he's eighty two-hundred

ntmo-e: southeastbound still

doug: eighty two hundred feet and now getting a transponder on him

ntmo-e: correct

doug: ok buddy

10:06

ntmo-e: ok we've lost radar contact with united ninety three
doug: all right

10:07

ntmo-e: sixteen south of Johnstown where they lost united ninety three and it was heading turning one four zero heading

doug: which will put him to what do you think

ntmo-e: uh I guess that put him down coming right just west of Dulles

doug: ok

ntmo-e: if he stays on that heading of course

doug: how we doing John with getting stuff on the ground

ntmo-e: uh we're they 're not they 're still going to their original destinations if you look at TSD you'll see that the eastern part of the unites states is thinning out

doug: ok

ntmo-e: uh you know airports like dulles uh new york there we have no aircraft going into there

doug: ok

10:08

ntmo-e: ok uh there is now on the on united ninety three

doug: yes

ntmo-e: there is now a report of black smoke in the last position I gave you fifteen miles of Johnstown

doug: from the airplane or from the ground

ntmo-e: uh they're speculating it's from the aircraft

doug: ok bud

ntmo-e: uh who hit the ground that's what they're speculation it's speculation only

doug: ok

10:10

doug: hey john

ntmo-e: yes

doug: do we have anything on delta nineteen eighty nine is she still heading to cleveland?

ntmo-e: delta nineteen eighty nine was returning to Cleveland and they were no longer treating it like a hijacked aircraft

doug: ok

ntmo-e: I don't know if he's landed ok; the last position of united I'm going to give some coordinates united ninety three

doug: yes

ntmo-e: three nine five one north zero seven eight four six west

doug: zero seven eight four six

ntmo-e: west

doug: west

doug: all right

ntmo-e: you got the thirty nine fifty one north

doug: ya thirty nine fifty one north zero seven eighty four six west

ntmo-e: that's the last known position of united ninety three

Full Transcript Here

United 93 transponder is recognized by Air Traffic Control as airborne after alleged impact time. Some have made the excuse this is due to Coast Mode tracking. ATC did not recognize any signs of CST (Coast Mode). Further confirmation that this was not any type of "Coast Mode" is that ATC also recognized United 93 reporting an altitude. The only way ATC could observe a reported altitude is if United 93 were squawking Mode C on the transponder, which means altitude reporting capability.

Further confirmation comes in the form of latitude and longitude positions reported by ATC. N39 51 - W78 46 were reported as the last known radar position of United 93. It is unclear if the position is reported as Degrees, Minutes or Decimal, however, standard aviation terminology is in Degrees, Minutes. With that said, both positions are well past the alleged United 93 Crash site.

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It is impossible for ATC to have observed United 93 transponder and altitude after the reported impact time and southeast of the crash site, if United 93 did in fact crash in Shanksville as the 9/11 Commission would have you believe.

Pilots For 9/11 Truth is an organization of aviation professionals from around the globe. The organization has analyzed Flight Data provided by the National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB). The data does not support observed events. See Pandora's Black Box - Chapter Three - Flight Of United 93 for full in depth analysis of United 93 Flight Data Recorder (Black Box) data provided by the National Transportation Safety Board. The NTSB/FBI refuse to comment. Pilots For 9/11 Truth Core member list continues to grow.

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Other Articles Of Interest:

Conflicting Data, Hardcore Questions and the Media Blackout
http://pilotsfor911truth.org/media_blackout022908.html
United 93 Press Release
http://pilotsfor911truth.org/UA93_Press_Release.html

Special thanks to "woody" for alerting us to this issue.

From Pilots for 911 Truth @ http://pilotsfor911truth.org/united-93-still-airborne.html

 

 

Coroner said no bodies were found in Shanksville

 

 

Wallace Miller is the coroner of Somerset County, Pennsylvania. He was among the first people to arrive at the alleged Flight 93 crash site on the morning of 9/11.

I stopped being coroner after about 20 minutes, because there were no bodies there. It became like a giant funeral service.

He later recounted to the Washington Post what he’d seen when he first got there: “I stopped being coroner after about 20 minutes, because there were no bodies there. It became like a giant funeral service.” (Peter Perl, “Hallowed Ground,” Washington Post, 5/12/2002) Since there were 44 people on board Flight 93, a crash site with “no bodies” makes no sense. Where were the victims? Something appears to have been seriously wrong. Yet Miller now seems to dispute his earlier claim. In the recent BBC documentary 9/11: The Conspiracy Files, he explained: “I said that I stopped being a coroner after about 20 minutes because it was perfectly clear what the cause and manner of death was gonna be.

This is the most eerie thing. I have not, to this day, seen a single drop of blood. Not a drop.

It was a plane crash but yet it was a homicide because the terrorists hijacked the plane and killed the people, and the terrorists committed suicide. So from that point, yes it was a misquote, because the point that I was trying to make was, after that it more or less became a large funeral service.

“The BBC documentary’s producer Guy Smith endorsed this claim, telling Loose Change creator Dylan Avery that Miller meant his earlier statement only as “a simile. … It looked as if that had happened. … But he didn’t mean that literally.” (9/11: The Conspiracy Files, BBC 2, 2/18/2007)

Was the Washington Post mistaken? Did they “misquote” Wallace Miller? Other reports suggest differently. In the 12 months following 9/11, Miller in fact described the surprising lack of human remains at the Flight 93 crash site, repeatedly and unequivocally: He told author David McCall: “I got to the actual crash site and could not believe what I saw. … Usually you see much debris, wreckage, and much noise and commotion. This crash was different. There was no wreckage, no bodies, and no noise. … It appeared as though there were no passengers or crew on this plane.” (David McCall, From Tragedy to Triumph, 2002, pp. 86-87)

He told the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette: “It was as if the plane had stopped and let the passengers off before it crashed.” (Tom Gibb, “Newsmaker: Coroner’s quiet unflappability helps him take charge of Somerset tragedy,” Pittsburgh Post-Gazette, 10/15/2001)

He told CNN: “It was a really a very unusual site. You almost would’ve thought the passengers had been dropped off somewhere. … Even by the standard model of an airplane crash, there was very little, even by those standards.” (CNN, 3/11/2002)

Author Jere Longman wrote: “Wallace Miller, the Somerset County coroner, arrived and walked around the [crash] site with [assistant volunteer fire chief Rick] King. … They walked around for an hour and found almost no human remains. ‘If you didn’t know, you would have thought no one was on the plane,” Miller said. “You would have thought they dropped them off somewhere.”” (Jere Longman, Among the Heroes, 2002, p. 217)

Recalling the crash scene, Miller told the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review: “This is the most eerie thing. I have not, to this day, seen a single drop of blood. Not a drop.” (Robb Frederick, “The day that changed America,” Pittsburgh Tribune-Review, 9/11/2002)

Australian newspaper The Age reported: “Miller was familiar with scenes of sudden and violent death, although none quite like this. Walking in his gumboots, the only recognisable body part he saw was a piece of spinal cord, with five vertebrae attached. ‘I’ve seen a lot of highway fatalities where there’s fragmentation,’ Miller said. ‘The interesting thing about this particular case is that I haven’t, to this day, 11 months later, seen any single drop of blood. Not a drop. The only thing I can deduce is that the crash was over in half a second. There was a fireball 15-20 metres high, so all of that material just got vaporised.'” (“On Hallowed Ground,” The Age, 9/9/2002)

It would be ridiculous to claim that these accounts were all ‘misquotes.’ Furthermore, several other witnesses also made the same observation, and later said they saw virtually no human remains at the Flight 93 crash site: According to the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review, when former firefighter Dave Fox arrived at the scene, “He saw a wiring harness, and a piston. None of the other pieces was bigger than a TV remote. He saw three chunks of torn human tissue. He swallowed hard. ‘You knew there were people there, but you couldn’t see them,’ he says.” (Robb Frederick, “The day that changed America,” Pittsburgh Tribune-Review, 9/11/2002)

Where is the plane?

Local FBI agent Wells Morrison told author Glenn Kashurba what he saw when he arrived at the crash site: “We arrived in the immediate area and walked up to the crater and the burning woods. My first thought was, ‘Where is the plane?’ Because most of what I saw was this honeycomb looking stuff, which I believe is insulation or something like that. I was not seeing anything that was distinguishable either as human remains or aircraft debris.” (Glenn Kashurba, Courage After the Crash, 2002, p. 110)

After hearing a plane was down nearby, Jeff Phillips, who worked at Stoystown Auto Wreckers, “left work to locate the crash site,” along with a colleague. “But when we arrived,” he says, “Almost nothing was recognizable. The only thing we saw that was even remotely human was half a shoe that was probably ten feet from the impact area.” (David McCall, From Tragedy to Triumph, 2002, pp. 29-30)

Jon Meyer, a reporter with WJAC-TV, says: “We were so early that they hadn’t had a chance to set up a barrier for the press. … I was able to get right up to the edge of the crater. … All I saw was a crater filled with small, charred plane parts. … There were no suitcases, no recognizable plane parts, no body parts.”(Newseum, Running Toward Danger, 2002, p. 148)

Faye Hahn, an EMT, responded to the first reports of the crash. She says: “Several trees were burned badly and there were papers everywhere. We searched. … I was told that there were 224 passengers, but later found out that there were actually forty. I was stunned. There was nothing there.” (David McCall, From Tragedy to Triumph, 2002, pp. 31-32)

Despite this absence of human remains at the Flight 93 crash scene, the Washington Post reported: “The 33 passengers, seven crew and four hijackers together weighed roughly 7,000 pounds. … Hundreds of searchers who climbed the hemlocks and combed the woods for weeks [after 9/11] were able to find about 1,500 mostly scorched samples of human tissue totaling less than 600 pounds, or about 8 percent of the total.” (Peter Perl, “Hallowed Ground,” Washington Post, 5/12/2002)

By December 19, 2001, “the remains of the 40 passengers and crew, and, by process of elimination, the four hijackers” had all been identified. (Steve Levin, “Flight 93 victims’ effects to go back to families,” Pittsburgh Post-Gazette, 12/30/2001)

From 911 Questions @ http://911-questions.com/no-bodies-were-found-in-shanksville-said-coroner/

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