tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8017670750734633321.post1725027459543847109..comments2024-03-29T01:18:36.311+11:00Comments on new illuminati: Beyond the Stink of Capitalism: Creating a REAL Free Worldnew illuminatihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17527075249440961813noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8017670750734633321.post-74355558114246259052016-04-12T00:08:11.891+10:002016-04-12T00:08:11.891+10:00Only a US citizen could state that AND believe itOnly a US citizen could state that AND believe itnew illuminatihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17527075249440961813noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8017670750734633321.post-10965129606045566462016-04-08T03:48:52.727+10:002016-04-08T03:48:52.727+10:00The differences between nations are not so great, ...The differences between nations are not so great, Illuminator, all differences are illusionary based on the concept of fictional nationhood that you deem to be relevant. If we all fictional nations use MONEY as a measure of value deemed more important than life itself then any minute differences are relative to the abstract concept of any vague definition of the term in which there's no consensus of opinion. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8017670750734633321.post-30745612979095958922016-03-10T00:14:55.801+11:002016-03-10T00:14:55.801+11:00You view the world through the narrow tube of Amer...You view the world through the narrow tube of Amerikana without seeing the vast differences in many other nations. The dividend allegory was an illustration of how even far right thinking can see the sense of guaranteed income. You also ignore the FACT that automation etc has rendered many 'jobs' redundant - and if we grasp our chance blind burrowing consumer societies that equate shopping for toxins with hunter-gathering at the expense of the planetary ecosystem will finally transform into something more pleasant, sustainable and truly productive.<br />In the meantime we're trying to find ways to ensure that people can still find food and shelter as the underpinnings of their social constructs implode all around them and they cascade down the rungs of social ladders en masse - while the obese rich grow more obesely 'wealthy'.new illuminatihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17527075249440961813noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8017670750734633321.post-83327454909254138592016-02-18T02:01:31.836+11:002016-02-18T02:01:31.836+11:00"Consumer societies would implode?" No, ..."Consumer societies would implode?" No, we will always consume for that is the very basis of any society, though we certainly can produce and distribute what we consume, much more intelligently without any form of political price system interference. <br /><br />Society and or governments are in fact corporations and are privatized, who needs to be on the far right to see that? It's a FACT Jack... <br /><br />And who needs a dividend, if money is taken out of the imbalance of things? <br /><br />Shareholders of a fiction, Illuminator, for whenever you talk about shareholders and dividends you're talking in terms of corporations and profits which always takes priority over people. Is this right or left thinking?<br /><br />People on the left believe in public systems without realizing that any and all so called public systems are all acting under the guise of private corporate enterprise... It's all such BS. There is no left or right, but there is MONEY and POLITICS both are LIE based mythologies intended to divide the world into DEBTORS and SECURED PARTY CREDITORS. And these are legally accepted fictions upon this deception game of life...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8017670750734633321.post-20555995922199074302016-02-17T22:07:02.136+11:002016-02-17T22:07:02.136+11:00Nothing to do with "worth as people" - a...Nothing to do with "worth as people" - a straw man argument. The point is that full time paid work will no longer be available to most wage slaves. Without providing them with an income consumer societies would implode. Money is actually irrelevant - it's almost all invented by keystroke now anyway.<br />This IS a way to free up that 'wasteful and unnecessary work force'.<br />Even some of those on the ultra-right who see societies as corporations take the view that if citizens are to be regarded as shareholders in a national enterprise they deserve a regular dividend.new illuminatihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17527075249440961813noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8017670750734633321.post-78291810930217447882016-02-13T04:57:29.051+11:002016-02-13T04:57:29.051+11:00And who says socialism is any better? It's all...And who says socialism is any better? It's all the same BS under any ism'... MONEY is the problem not the ism's associated with it... Ism' is a distraction whether it's capitalism, socialism, communism, it's all the same old BS under the rules of the price system. <br /><br />Some might say, "well, we need money to determine our worth as people." I say BS... Money is the problem and never the solution... If we want security learn how to free energy for everyones great benefit. Money is a losing proposition, always has been ever since machines began to produce more than mans labor replace. Who needs money is we learn to free up energy through totally streamlined automation techniques? Produce more with less through nano-technologies, get rid of 95% of the current wasteful and unnecessary work force, as we free ourselves up to be happy, and healthy in a pollution free world where peace and security is ALL of ours as a right of birth.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8017670750734633321.post-10118788645440431262016-02-13T03:45:31.662+11:002016-02-13T03:45:31.662+11:00Ok, just give people money and pacify them... Now ...Ok, just give people money and pacify them... Now what? We're still going to have greed, we're still going to have profit making wars, we're still going to have competition, we're still going to have crime, and pollution and all the other things associated with any kind of mythical money system created by those so called special people in charge of the money supply... <br /><br />Come on, remember the only common denominator of all the goods and services produced-distributed and consumed is ENERGY and not money. Money acts as a way to become prejudiced about whom is better than whom through any form of hook or crook scam... Money is based on scarcity valuations not on the abundances of energy resources. Wake up to reality folks money is not the answer.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com