tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8017670750734633321.post3827851255538824750..comments2024-03-29T01:18:36.311+11:00Comments on new illuminati: Native Americans and Vegetarianismnew illuminatihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17527075249440961813noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8017670750734633321.post-30281060503730617722012-09-08T03:45:53.576+10:002012-09-08T03:45:53.576+10:00Thank you for this article! I wanted to respond to...Thank you for this article! I wanted to respond to anonymous's comment - I think alot of people believe that vegetarian & vegan diets are impractical or impossible for people in cold weather climates, because there is currently an emphasis on "raw food" veganism as being the ideal for anyone who wants to stop eating meat to attain. I think that there are many benefits to eating raw foods, but I dont think that such a diet is ideal for everyone under all circumstances, and under NO circumstances should the challenges of such a diet dissuade people from becoming vegan or vegetarian for health and ethical reasons. <br /><br />If for any reason (time, money, climate, habit, upbringing, etc) its hard for someone to base their diet around fresh fruits and veggies, (and so they must eat mostly cooked grains, veggies, etc), I think they should just do what they can and eat what is practical and possible for them. <br /><br />I think the true goal should be for people to eat as ethically and nutrionally sound as possible, and realize that these two intentions are not mutually exclusive, but one & the same. The ideal, end goal, is to eat to nurture your mind, body, and spirit without harming other sentient creatures. Depending on your climate and the time of year, that may mean a diet consisting mostly of cooked grains and veggies. For those who for cultural or other reasons are not ready to stop eating meat 100%, it means buying organic meat from farmers who treat their animals humanely and compassionately, raising them in good conditions and giving them as a good a life as possible (like anonymous said many Indian tribes did). My prayer is that someday, we can return to the "Garden of Eden" described in American Indian traditions,the Bible, and cultures worldwide, where all living things can enjoy the Earth's abundance without harming each other. People have that ability right now and just have to make the decision to do so on a world-wide basis. <br /><br />For those who live in a cold climate (& who are cash strapped!), I would recommend reading up on macrobiotic diets. They were developed by Japanese nutritionists (parts of Japan has cold winters), but there are variations using Western food. I am Italian-American, so I use a Mediterranean inspired version. I like macrobiotics because it is designed to change with the seasons - in winter and fall, you eat foods to help your body deal with cold weather. In summer & spring, you eat more fresh fruits and veggies (when they are in season, cheaper:-), and locally available, so you can support farmers near you and use less resources getting the food to your markets. Many macro diets are vegan, but they are flexible by nature so you can tailor them for what's best for you and your loved ones!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8017670750734633321.post-63855614071545158572012-02-18T02:55:59.830+11:002012-02-18T02:55:59.830+11:00Thanks Illuminator, I understand what you're s...Thanks Illuminator, I understand what you're saying, but believe me when I tell you that being a modern day vegetarian is very difficult if one lives in Alaska, or Northern Minnesota etc... First of all it's difficult to get any kind of (Fresh fruits and Veggies) because they're at the end of the supply lines. <br /><br />If indeed we do find these essential veggies, most likely they're not organic, they are either genetically modified in order to preserve the shelf life or they are wilted and lacking of nutritional value. The human body naturally stores fat to get through the winter months and the best form of fat comes from fish and animal protein. I understand your argument about ones need to have compassion for the animals. There are many rituals in which the bison is held in high esteem, many indian tribes see themselves as being a part of the bison food source, there is no separation between the animal, plant, earth, and spirit worlds to these traditionally inclined tribes.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8017670750734633321.post-4714109198219146042012-02-17T23:11:17.240+11:002012-02-17T23:11:17.240+11:00Indeed, wherever desert conditions apply, whether ...Indeed, wherever desert conditions apply, whether in arid climes or frozen wastes, humans have had to resort to animal protein when the seasons and climatic conditions call/ed for it. Most tribal peoples in friendlier climates have usually thrived on a diet consisting of around 80% vegetables (at the very least). Yet despite their antecedents most modern humans have no requirement for dead animal flesh and meat eating is simply a matter of appetite, not need - and a question of compassion, a true test of our real humanity (or not).new illuminatihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17527075249440961813noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8017670750734633321.post-6287305055720227462012-02-17T07:14:19.315+11:002012-02-17T07:14:19.315+11:00I agree with some but not all that is said here. I...I agree with some but not all that is said here. I agree that the lower plains indians ate more of a vegetarian type diet because they were living in conditions that were conducive to that kind of diet, but the Norther Plains Indians, i.e the Lakota, the Black Feet indians etc... ate mostly bison and brook trout, venison, elk, Caribou, Moose etc... they relied on the protein from animal meat to sustain themselves through the long winter months. During the late summer months they picked blue berries, raspberries, mulberries, maze, and a variety of herbs etc... They depended on the bison, as their primary food source. I agree that our contemporary method for mass producing meat products contributes to our bad health, but on the other hand, free ranging animal protein is an essential food source for people living in northern climes, the proof is in our blood.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com